Comments on: Is The Online Hosting Network a Scam? http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/ No Bullsh*t Advice For Internet Marketing Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:06:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Rob G., N.Z. http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6404 Rob G., N.Z. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:24:49 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6404 I didn't say it was a "good thing". That said, US$3500 back is definitely better than $0. I talked to the Commerce Commission in New Zealand who said that I was unlikely to see any of my money again. I told Elite World Systems that I wanted my money back (US$6150 - which was then NZ$7600). After agreeing to lift the refund from US$3000 to US$3500 I got confident I would get it all back. E.W.S turned down an attempt to increase it further. The US$3500 returned is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, and it leaves me about US$2650 out of pocket. But it's better than nothing. I didn’t say it was a “good thing”. That said, US$3500 back is definitely better than $0.

I talked to the Commerce Commission in New Zealand who said that I was unlikely to see any of my money again. I told Elite World Systems that I wanted my money back (US$6150 – which was then NZ$7600). After agreeing to lift the refund from US$3000 to US$3500 I got confident I would get it all back. E.W.S turned down an attempt to increase it further. The US$3500 returned is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, and it leaves me about US$2650 out of pocket. But it’s better than nothing.

]]> By: Kiri http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6202 Kiri Tue, 20 Dec 2011 02:30:37 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6202 Hey um i filled out the info need to look at the website but i never actually paid anything or agreed to anything, does this mean i'm in the clear? And does anyone know a way of making sure they don't call me? Hey um i filled out the info need to look at the website but i never actually paid anything or agreed to anything, does this mean i’m in the clear?
And does anyone know a way of making sure they don’t call me?

]]> By: John http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6199 John Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:37:52 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6199 They are also currently advertising on Facebook. The ad reads: Now Hiring. Careers with Us £28.57/hr Data Entry Jobs. Must have a computer. Limited Positions. and the ad goes to Money at Home Today: moneyathometoday.com/fb/?publisher=FBAPP&sub_id=UKI205 They are also currently advertising on Facebook. The ad reads:
Now Hiring. Careers with Us
£28.57/hr Data Entry Jobs. Must have a computer. Limited Positions.
and the ad goes to Money at Home Today:
moneyathometoday.com/fb/?publisher=FBAPP&sub_id=UKI205

]]> By: Gareth http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6190 Gareth Sun, 04 Dec 2011 22:58:42 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6190 This is how to get a FULL refund 1.Go to your bank immediatley and tell them to start a fraud investigation this is a fraudulent company run the same way DON LAPRE ran his he has been caught google his name along with FORREST.L.WEBB the owner of Elite World Systems this company has many other names all leading back to Online Hosting Network of Phoenix Arizona 2.Contact the BBB of Phoenix Arizona fill out the complaint form online 3.Ring them and ask for JAMES TAFT james@ohnlive.com he is the boss under FORREST.L.WEBB tell him all you know about thier fraudulent business demand a full refund and accept NO OFFERS ...PLEASE AMERICA THIS IS GOING ON TOO LONG JAIL THEM ALL LIKE YOU DID TO DON LAPRE SAME BUSINESS SAME SENTENCE. This is how to get a FULL refund 1.Go to your bank immediatley and tell them to start a fraud investigation this is a fraudulent company run the same way DON LAPRE ran his he has been caught google his name along with FORREST.L.WEBB the owner of Elite World Systems this company has many other names all leading back to Online Hosting Network of Phoenix Arizona 2.Contact the BBB of Phoenix Arizona fill out the complaint form online 3.Ring them and ask for JAMES TAFT james@ohnlive.com he is the boss under FORREST.L.WEBB tell him all you know about thier fraudulent business demand a full refund and accept NO OFFERS …PLEASE AMERICA THIS IS GOING ON TOO LONG JAIL THEM ALL LIKE YOU DID TO DON LAPRE SAME BUSINESS SAME SENTENCE.

]]> By: fee (New Zealand) http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6189 fee (New Zealand) Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:23:03 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6189 Rob G. (NZ) I joined in December 2009 and spent thousands. After complaining that my site was not making any money and i was going to ask for my refund they told me to "hold off" and then started "pumping through" commission sales (of which most only returned $10 each), but still never made enough to cover the cost of my elite package. They kept me hanging on a thread for a year and then i forgot to renew my site (funny they didn't go out of their way to remind me of this). So being inactive for a year, should i be able (or within my rights - HA) to ask for a refund? I did 3 training sessions (paid for a year), paid for views/traffic which did not reach the target paid for, and "pay per click". Are any of these scenario's similar to yours? I'd like to know what they will try and "hit" me with! Rob G. (NZ)
I joined in December 2009 and spent thousands. After complaining that my site was not making any money and i was going to ask for my refund they told me to “hold off” and then started “pumping through” commission sales (of which most only returned $10 each), but still never made enough to cover the cost of my elite package.
They kept me hanging on a thread for a year and then i forgot to renew my site (funny they didn’t go out of their way to remind me of this).
So being inactive for a year, should i be able (or within my rights – HA) to ask for a refund? I did 3 training sessions (paid for a year), paid for views/traffic which did not reach the target paid for, and “pay per click”.
Are any of these scenario’s similar to yours? I’d like to know what they will try and “hit” me with!

]]> By: El Plumber (admin) http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6187 El Plumber (admin) Sat, 03 Dec 2011 19:18:32 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6187 So let me just get this straight here Rob G. You paid them $8000 for a junk cookie cutter web site, and were refunded $4500. So essentially you paid $3500 for a junk cookie cutter web site. And somehow that's a good thing? How is that ok? So let me just get this straight here Rob G. You paid them $8000 for a junk cookie cutter web site, and were refunded $4500. So essentially you paid $3500 for a junk cookie cutter web site. And somehow that’s a good thing? How is that ok?

]]> By: Rob G., N.Z. http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6184 Rob G., N.Z. Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:25:53 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6184 Kia Ora After spending around NZ$8000 on Elite World Systems, and not being satisfied with what I paid for, I asked for a refund and came to an amicable agreement with them that they would pay US$3500 (NZ$4500 or there abouts). Per our agreeement I agreed to put this message up when they finished paying out. This they did in mid-November. Kia Ora

After spending around NZ$8000 on Elite World Systems, and not being satisfied with what I paid for, I asked for a refund and came to an amicable agreement with them that they would pay US$3500 (NZ$4500 or there abouts). Per our agreeement I agreed to put this message up when they finished paying out. This they did in mid-November.

]]> By: John http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6172 John Tue, 22 Nov 2011 02:40:14 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6172 Sadly, it seems some of the people who have been scammed/ripped off are not even aware of it due to their lack of knowledge - take for example this 1 review (positive) on the BBB page for Elite World Systems: http://www.bbb.org/phoenix/Business-Reviews/business-consultants/elite-world-systems-in-phoenix-az-1000014047/Customer-Reviews/ However if you look at her site (mentioned in the review) you will see that it is just another cookie cutter banner farm affiliate page which will never earn any meaningful revenue from Amazon. :( Therefore any advice or coaching she received while it may have been "friendly" and "patient" is clearly very bad advice as it is wrong and worthless. So she has paid (overpaid) for a very poor website and very bad advice/coaching. Sadly people may see that one review and that it is positive and go ahead with Elite World Systems /OHN despite the F rating - so if anyone with experience of Elite World Systems has the time to leave a review on the BBB site you may prevent other people from falling into the same trap. Sadly, it seems some of the people who have been scammed/ripped off are not even aware of it due to their lack of knowledge – take for example this 1 review (positive) on the BBB page for Elite World Systems:
http://www.bbb.org/phoenix/Business-Reviews/business-consultants/elite-world-systems-in-phoenix-az-1000014047/Customer-Reviews/

However if you look at her site (mentioned in the review) you will see that it is just another cookie cutter banner farm affiliate page which will never earn any meaningful revenue from Amazon. :( Therefore any advice or coaching she received while it may have been “friendly” and “patient” is clearly very bad advice as it is wrong and worthless. So she has paid (overpaid) for a very poor website and very bad advice/coaching.

Sadly people may see that one review and that it is positive and go ahead with Elite World Systems /OHN despite the F rating – so if anyone with experience of Elite World Systems has the time to leave a review on the BBB site you may prevent other people from falling into the same trap.

]]> By: Unsure http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6170 Unsure Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:21:51 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6170 Hi El Plumber, I have read- as much as I can- the replies and I hate the fact that companies knowingly rip people off. I actually mentioned to the guy at Elite World Systems that people out there are giving them a bad rap to which he referred to this site and said that El plumber is a rival company.....hmmmm...there must be 400 rival companies linked to you!!!! :) He mentioned that other webhsosting companies don't give as much support as there's does.... I've started up a free blog using blogger based upon some really good advice from the great people I've been chatting to (and actaully referred me to this site). Thru my blog I'll advertise Amazon!! Save myself the $29.95 a month! Thank you Gareth, I'll locate your previous email and make it my mission to get my money back from these rip off merchants who sounded so nice! Thanks guys! Hi El Plumber, I have read- as much as I can- the replies and I hate the fact that companies knowingly rip people off. I actually mentioned to the guy at Elite World Systems that people out there are giving them a bad rap to which he referred to this site and said that El plumber is a rival company…..hmmmm…there must be 400 rival companies linked to you!!!! :) He mentioned that other webhsosting companies don’t give as much support as there’s does….
I’ve started up a free blog using blogger based upon some really good advice from the great people I’ve been chatting to (and actaully referred me to this site). Thru my blog I’ll advertise Amazon!! Save myself the $29.95 a month!
Thank you Gareth, I’ll locate your previous email and make it my mission to get my money back from these rip off merchants who sounded so nice!

Thanks guys!

]]> By: John http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/#comment-6169 John Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:39:42 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1011#comment-6169 They are currently advertising on Facebook - clicking the ad takes you to this Facebook page which links to a fake news site: facebook.com/pages/GET-PAID-59Hour-Working-Online/307578859252162?sk=info The fake news site [times-inside.com] is owned by: Andrew McPherson Made2Lead Media Ltd 45 Henley Avenue Thornhill Dewsbury, West Yorkshire WF12 0LN Phone: 07525473504 Email: ajm1988@googlemail.com http://domaincoleta.com/whois/times-inside.com The fake news site leads to Home Working Connection with the almost impossible to read text hidden at the bottom: homeworkingconnection.com/?publisher=MUNDO&sub_id=CD3195 Filling in (fake) contact info took me to the payment page and contained in the text there is a phone number: (0800) 098-8507 in one version and (0808) 234-3438 in another version. A Google search shows that this belongs to Genesis Consulting Group genesisonlineconsulting.com and a reverse ip on that brings up: acceleratedwebsolutions.com associateinternetsolutions.com homecashwayz.com homeincomeagency.com homeincomelocator.com hostingsolutionservices.com hsshosting.com myplaceforhosting.com nethostfee.com ohnlive.com onlineaffiliatecenter.com onlinehostingnetwork.com universalwebconsulting.com uwccorp.com wealthwayz1fr.com dedicatedhostingnetwork.com eliteworldsystems.com myplaceforhosting.com foxbusinesssolution.com They are currently advertising on Facebook – clicking the ad takes you to this Facebook page which links to a fake news site: facebook.com/pages/GET-PAID-59Hour-Working-Online/307578859252162?sk=info

The fake news site [times-inside.com]
is owned by:
Andrew McPherson
Made2Lead Media Ltd
45 Henley Avenue
Thornhill
Dewsbury, West Yorkshire WF12 0LN
Phone: 07525473504
Email: ajm1988@googlemail.com
http://domaincoleta.com/whois/times-inside.com

The fake news site leads to Home Working Connection with the almost impossible to read text hidden at the bottom: homeworkingconnection.com/?publisher=MUNDO&sub_id=CD3195

Filling in (fake) contact info took me to the payment page and contained in the text there is a phone number: (0800) 098-8507 in one version and (0808) 234-3438 in another version.

A Google search shows that this belongs to Genesis Consulting Group genesisonlineconsulting.com and a reverse ip on that brings up: acceleratedwebsolutions.com associateinternetsolutions.com homecashwayz.com homeincomeagency.com homeincomelocator.com hostingsolutionservices.com hsshosting.com myplaceforhosting.com nethostfee.com ohnlive.com onlineaffiliatecenter.com onlinehostingnetwork.com universalwebconsulting.com uwccorp.com wealthwayz1fr.com dedicatedhostingnetwork.com eliteworldsystems.com myplaceforhosting.com foxbusinesssolution.com

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