Comments on: The Three Rules To Avoiding Scams http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/ No Bullsh*t Advice For Internet Marketing Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:26:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: El Plumber (admin) http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-3091 El Plumber (admin) Sat, 20 Aug 2011 18:10:48 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-3091 Oh my god! People keep asking the same question expecting a different answer. If it sounds TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, then it probably is. Peter, here is my opinion: DO NOT GIVE THEM $25,000 or even $2,500 or even $250. DO NOT. NOT. NO NO NO NO NO. It has all the classic warning signs. Their site has a private hidden registration so you can't find out who registered it. That address for HBBAustralia that Chris posted is a "virtual" office where for $360 a month you can make it look like your business is located there, take phone calls and even rent out a meeting room for an hour to meet a client like yourself in a professional looking office that appears to be yours: http://www.servcorp.com/executive-suites-virtual-offices/australia/brisbane/10-eagle-st-brisbane. That official looking "seal of approval" they have on their site is from a company whose address is listed as the 24th floor in that same building that is ALSO a virtual office at the same location, very likely not a real consumer agency but something created by the same exact people in order to look more official. Let's face it, they have $25,000 to gain here and they only need to sell a few people every month to make a VERY LARGE amount of money. Now I can't say for 100% sure, but if someone who is hiding behind all these "virtual" addresses is trying to sell you magic software for $25,000, my opinion is NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. If you really want to give some horse race betting from home software a try there is MUCH less expensive stuff out there, <a href="http://electronplumber.com/betfair">like this one. Try it for $40 first and see.</a> Oh my god! People keep asking the same question expecting a different answer. If it sounds TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, then it probably is.

Peter, here is my opinion: DO NOT GIVE THEM $25,000 or even $2,500 or even $250. DO NOT. NOT. NO NO NO NO NO. It has all the classic warning signs. Their site has a private hidden registration so you can’t find out who registered it. That address for HBBAustralia that Chris posted is a “virtual” office where for $360 a month you can make it look like your business is located there, take phone calls and even rent out a meeting room for an hour to meet a client like yourself in a professional looking office that appears to be yours: http://www.servcorp.com/executive-suites-virtual-offices/australia/brisbane/10-eagle-st-brisbane. That official looking “seal of approval” they have on their site is from a company whose address is listed as the 24th floor in that same building that is ALSO a virtual office at the same location, very likely not a real consumer agency but something created by the same exact people in order to look more official. Let’s face it, they have $25,000 to gain here and they only need to sell a few people every month to make a VERY LARGE amount of money.

Now I can’t say for 100% sure, but if someone who is hiding behind all these “virtual” addresses is trying to sell you magic software for $25,000, my opinion is NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. If you really want to give some horse race betting from home software a try there is MUCH less expensive stuff out there, like this one. Try it for $40 first and see.

]]> By: Peter http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-3090 Peter Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:59:14 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-3090 Any information on Home Based Business Australia P/L of Holden Place on the Gold Coast would be welcome. I went there and checked them out. The computer system looked good and the office seemed legitimate. Got onto a forum at night and contacted two of the people who did testimonials and they also seemed legitimate. Would welcome some other information. Any information on Home Based Business Australia P/L of Holden Place on the Gold Coast would be welcome.

I went there and checked them out. The computer system looked good and the office seemed legitimate. Got onto a forum at night and contacted two of the people who did testimonials and they also seemed legitimate.

Would welcome some other information.

]]> By: El Plumber (admin) http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-3086 El Plumber (admin) Thu, 18 Aug 2011 05:09:02 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-3086 OH MY GOD! You are joking right Chris? $25,000 for software that lets you bet on horses? Seriously? I think you have to turn in your internet license for even asking that question. In case the sarcasm didn't get through to you, OH MY GOD! Don't even consider it. I'm finding it hard to believe that you even need to ask anyone if that seems like it could possibly be a good idea. OH MY GOD! You are joking right Chris? $25,000 for software that lets you bet on horses? Seriously? I think you have to turn in your internet license for even asking that question.

In case the sarcasm didn’t get through to you, OH MY GOD! Don’t even consider it. I’m finding it hard to believe that you even need to ask anyone if that seems like it could possibly be a good idea.

]]> By: CHris http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-3079 CHris Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:02:10 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-3079 Hi, i have been contacted by people from hbbaustralia.com P.1300482085 Adress level 19, 10 eagle st Brisbane QLD 4000. There are offering betfair trading software for $25000. Can you tell me if this software and company are legitimate or scammers. Cheers CHris Hi, i have been contacted by people from hbbaustralia.com P.1300482085 Adress level 19, 10 eagle st Brisbane QLD 4000. There are offering betfair trading software for $25000. Can you tell me if this software and company are legitimate or scammers.

Cheers CHris

]]> By: Bradley Cooper http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-3059 Bradley Cooper Tue, 02 Aug 2011 01:15:13 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-3059 australian hbb.com is now hbbaustralia.com new phone number australian hbb.com
is now
hbbaustralia.com
new phone number

]]> By: Scamwatcher http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-3021 Scamwatcher Wed, 29 Jun 2011 06:30:36 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-3021 The biggest Gold coast scumbag scammers are back in Horse Racing Philip Cropper Larry Pickering They are the owners of ozripoff.com, latest scam, they remove anything on them straight away! (Proof that they are behind it apart from the mountains of other evidence) They even have it automatically picking up the words �larry pickering� and if your report has it in it will not even get listed. www.australianhbb.com australianhbb.com AUSTRALIAN HOME BASED BUSINESS PTY LTD The Bundall road boys scammers are back! GOLD COAST KNOWN SCUMBAGS NOT IN BRISBANE Quick buy now only 2 left at $19999 before they go up to $24999 How stupid do you think people are? They will still have 2 left in 6 months Run a mile. These guys are the worst fraudsters in Queensland. There is too much to list on even 10 pages on these guys. Nutech Advantage, Redback Gaming, Fortune 100, Profit Performer, BGT Global and Totemaster, Betfairly now AHBB or Australian Home Based Business Just a few of the lovely things their clients have to say about them, http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/profit-runner-profit-performer-nutechadvantage-ontrack-global-track-whispers-poolcomps-c128380.html http://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037&page=1 http://www.ozripoff.com/report-view/87-red-back-gaming-pty-ltd-trading-as-fortune100 http://www.ripoffreport.com/computer-software/fortune-100/fortune-100-bgt-global-red-b-ad735.htm http://www.arbforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1188970461/105 http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/oz-ripoff-is-a-scam-c305534.html Current Organisation Details Name AUSTRALIAN HOME BASED BUSINESS PTY LTD 1E6590534 Name Start 17-Jun-2010 Status REGISTERED Type AUSTRALIAN PROPRIETARY COMPANY Class LIMITED BY SHARES Subclass PROPRIETARY COMPANY Disclosing Entity NO Current Registered Office Address PIVOTAL POINT THE MBA PARTNERSHIP PTY LTD, LEVEL 3, 50 MARINE PARADE, SOUTHPORT, QLD, 4215 1E6590534 Start Date 17-Jun-2010 Current Principal Place of Business Address LEVEL 22, 127 CREEK STREET, BRISBANE, QLD, 4000 1E6590534 Start Date 17-Jun-2010 Current Director Officer Name BRUCE GRAHAM GORRIE 1E7380123 ABN Not available Birth Details 26-May-1947 BRISBANE QLD Address 5 MARINA STREET, CAPALABA, QLD, 4157 Appointment Date 06-May-2011 Ceased/Former Director Officer Name KARL ZENO KEONG 027248974 ABN Not available Birth Details 06-Dec-1975 TOOWOOMBA QLD Address 22 MATTOCKS ROAD, VARSITY LAKES, QLD, 4227 Appointment Date 11-Jan-2011 Cease Date 06-May-2011 Officer Name MATTHEW JACOB KOPKE 1E6590534 ABN Not available Birth Details 19-May-1978 PALMERSTON NORTH NEW ZEALAND Address 2633 GOLD COAST HIGHWAY, BROADBEACH, QLD, 4218 Appointment Date 17-Jun-2010 Cease Date 11-Jan-2011 Ceased/ Domain Name.......... australianhbb.com Creation Date........ 2010-06-16 Registration Date.... 2010-06-16 Expiry Date.......... 2021-06-16 Organisation Name.... Australian home based business Organisation Address. 100 Bundall Road Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Bundall Organisation Address. 4217 Organisation Address. QLD Organisation Address. AUSTRALIA Admin Name........... Matthew Kopke Admin Address........ 100 Bundall Road Admin Address........ Admin Address........ Bundall Admin Address........ 4217 Admin Address........ QLD Admin Address........ AUSTRALIA Admin Email.......... marketingexperts10@gmail.com Admin Phone.......... +61.1300771922 Admin Fax............ What Betfair say about it them, (cant trade with no account can you) ? "We have reason to believe that an arbitrage company may be placing bets through our exchange on your behalf. Please be advised that Betfair do not allow 3rd party access to Betfair accounts - it is against our terms and conditions. All bets on your account must be placed by you, as per the terms and conditions to which you agreed upon during registration.Your Betfair account has been temporarily suspended for your protection." Busted Cropper you thief, This is the worst known active scammer in Queensland Do you really think they will answer the phone after you ask for your money back? Same old rubbish free trial high pressure all the pretty pictures of the beach cars and so on������� Crawl back under your rock Phil Cropper you piece of crap. Darren Jansen sucks. The biggest Gold coast scumbag scammers are back in Horse Racing
Philip Cropper
Larry Pickering
They are the owners of ozripoff.com, latest scam, they remove anything on them straight away! (Proof that they are behind it apart from the mountains of other evidence)
They even have it automatically picking up the words �larry pickering� and if your report has it in it will not even get listed.
http://www.australianhbb.com
australianhbb.com
AUSTRALIAN HOME BASED BUSINESS PTY LTD

The Bundall road boys scammers are back!
GOLD COAST KNOWN SCUMBAGS NOT IN BRISBANE
Quick buy now only 2 left at $19999 before they go up to $24999
How stupid do you think people are?
They will still have 2 left in 6 months
Run a mile.

These guys are the worst fraudsters in Queensland. There is too much to list on even 10 pages on these guys.
Nutech Advantage, Redback Gaming, Fortune 100, Profit Performer, BGT Global and Totemaster, Betfairly now AHBB or Australian Home Based Business
Just a few of the lovely things their clients have to say about them,
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/profit-runner-profit-performer-nutechadvantage-ontrack-global-track-whispers-poolcomps-c128380.html
http://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037&page=1
http://www.ozripoff.com/report-view/87-red-back-gaming-pty-ltd-trading-as-fortune100
http://www.ripoffreport.com/computer-software/fortune-100/fortune-100-bgt-global-red-b-ad735.htm
http://www.arbforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1188970461/105
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/oz-ripoff-is-a-scam-c305534.html

Current Organisation Details
Name AUSTRALIAN HOME BASED BUSINESS PTY LTD 1E6590534
Name Start 17-Jun-2010
Status REGISTERED
Type AUSTRALIAN PROPRIETARY COMPANY
Class LIMITED BY SHARES
Subclass PROPRIETARY COMPANY
Disclosing Entity NO
Current Registered Office
Address PIVOTAL POINT THE MBA PARTNERSHIP PTY LTD, LEVEL 3,
50 MARINE PARADE, SOUTHPORT, QLD, 4215
1E6590534
Start Date 17-Jun-2010
Current Principal Place of Business
Address LEVEL 22, 127 CREEK STREET, BRISBANE, QLD, 4000 1E6590534
Start Date 17-Jun-2010
Current Director
Officer Name BRUCE GRAHAM GORRIE 1E7380123
ABN Not available
Birth Details 26-May-1947 BRISBANE QLD
Address 5 MARINA STREET, CAPALABA, QLD, 4157
Appointment Date 06-May-2011
Ceased/Former Director
Officer Name KARL ZENO KEONG 027248974
ABN Not available
Birth Details 06-Dec-1975 TOOWOOMBA QLD
Address 22 MATTOCKS ROAD, VARSITY LAKES, QLD, 4227
Appointment Date 11-Jan-2011
Cease Date 06-May-2011
Officer Name MATTHEW JACOB KOPKE 1E6590534
ABN Not available
Birth Details 19-May-1978 PALMERSTON NORTH NEW ZEALAND
Address 2633 GOLD COAST HIGHWAY, BROADBEACH, QLD, 4218
Appointment Date 17-Jun-2010
Cease Date 11-Jan-2011
Ceased/
Domain Name………. australianhbb.com
Creation Date…….. 2010-06-16
Registration Date…. 2010-06-16
Expiry Date………. 2021-06-16
Organisation Name…. Australian home based business
Organisation Address. 100 Bundall Road
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Bundall
Organisation Address. 4217
Organisation Address. QLD
Organisation Address. AUSTRALIA

Admin Name……….. Matthew Kopke
Admin Address…….. 100 Bundall Road
Admin Address……..
Admin Address…….. Bundall
Admin Address…….. 4217
Admin Address…….. QLD
Admin Address…….. AUSTRALIA
Admin Email………. marketingexperts10@gmail.com
Admin Phone………. +61.1300771922
Admin Fax…………

What Betfair say about it them, (cant trade with no account can you) ?
“We have reason to believe that an arbitrage company may be placing bets through our exchange on your behalf. Please be advised that Betfair do not allow 3rd party access to Betfair accounts – it is against our terms and conditions. All bets on your account must be placed by you, as per the terms and conditions to which you agreed upon during registration.Your Betfair account has been temporarily suspended for your protection.”

Busted Cropper you thief,
This is the worst known active scammer in Queensland
Do you really think they will answer the phone after you ask for your money back?
Same old rubbish free trial high pressure all the pretty pictures of the beach cars and so on�������
Crawl back under your rock Phil Cropper you piece of crap.
Darren Jansen sucks.

]]> By: Sonny Pham http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-3013 Sonny Pham Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:00:47 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-3013 I have been trying to get my money back from these people since March. Someone name Hugo contacted me and said that i needed to send him evidence of my advertising before he can refund my money. Ihave checked their website and they now have a message "Scandalous businesses attempt to scare and confuse Online Hosting Network customers! Online Hosting Network is a legitimate, ethical company. But beware! You may find false negative reviews on sites created by shady competitors that are attempting to scare Online Hosting Network customers and direct them to the competitors inferior product offerings". I haven't sent my proof of advertising yet - any advise that i should add to when i email this Hugo? Regards Sonny I have been trying to get my money back from these people since March. Someone name Hugo contacted me and said that i needed to send him evidence of my advertising before he can refund my money. Ihave checked their website and they now have a message “Scandalous businesses attempt to scare and confuse Online Hosting Network customers! Online Hosting Network is a legitimate, ethical company. But beware! You may find false negative reviews on sites created by shady competitors that are attempting to scare Online Hosting Network customers and direct them to the competitors inferior product offerings”.
I haven’t sent my proof of advertising yet – any advise that i should add to when i email this Hugo? Regards Sonny

]]> By: Burnt http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-3009 Burnt Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:39:04 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-3009 Hey. I fell for all the quick talking of Online Hosting Network. I was told I didn't need to know much, they would set everything up and I would get $US500 for every successful sale they made from referrals from the site they would set up. I reinforced I knew nothing about the web/computers and they assured me it didn't matter. I foolishly believed all the hype and paid $,000s. They training was brief and spasmodic and meant stuff all to me. Eventually 4 referrals were made, but I only got paid around $20 each for them. I complained and complained. Heard all the excuses and that I wasn't told what I was told etc. Eventually, after several trainers, 1 decided to set up a site for me. She picked the topic and started to build it. She was 'promoted and some 4 months later nothing was happening. Eventually, after much complaining, a supervisor built the site to get me going. Guess what, nothing - no income etc. And their experts built the site and I was supposed to get 000,000s of advertising 'stuff'. What a rip off Hey. I fell for all the quick talking of Online Hosting Network. I was told I didn’t need to know much, they would set everything up and I would get $US500 for every successful sale they made from referrals from the site they would set up. I reinforced I knew nothing about the web/computers and they assured me it didn’t matter. I foolishly believed all the hype and paid $,000s. They training was brief and spasmodic and meant stuff all to me. Eventually 4 referrals were made, but I only got paid around $20 each for them. I complained and complained. Heard all the excuses and that I wasn’t told what I was told etc. Eventually, after several trainers, 1 decided to set up a site for me. She picked the topic and started to build it. She was ‘promoted and some 4 months later nothing was happening. Eventually, after much complaining, a supervisor built the site to get me going. Guess what, nothing – no income etc. And their experts built the site and I was supposed to get 000,000s of advertising ‘stuff’. What a rip off

]]> By: El Plumber (admin) http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-1985 El Plumber (admin) Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:45:53 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-1985 Sonny, define autopilot. Any completely "autopilot" websites that existed will have been copied thousands of times and stop earning money before you see it. There is work involved, but it doesn't have to be a lot. I spend about 10-20 hours a week in my spare time total on my sites. You have to learn to make a site of your own, create content (or buy it from someone else) and get links to your site (or pay someone else to make them). If you want to start learning for free, go here: http://electronplumber.com/Affilorama Sonny, define autopilot. Any completely “autopilot” websites that existed will have been copied thousands of times and stop earning money before you see it. There is work involved, but it doesn’t have to be a lot. I spend about 10-20 hours a week in my spare time total on my sites.

You have to learn to make a site of your own, create content (or buy it from someone else) and get links to your site (or pay someone else to make them). If you want to start learning for free, go here: http://electronplumber.com/Affilorama

]]> By: Sonny http://electronplumber.com/the-three-rules-to-avoiding-scams/#comment-1984 Sonny Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:22:54 +0000 http://electronplumber.com/?p=1259#comment-1984 Hello, Are there any know autopilot websites that is not a scam which i can use to generate income? It has been very time consuming doing searches just to find one that really works. Are there any online money making ways that really works? I am already one of those person who have paid "Online Network Hosting, scams" and of course have not genreated any money, which they did assured that i would! Your recommendations would be much appreciated. Thanks Sonny Hello,
Are there any know autopilot websites that is not a scam which i can use to generate income? It has been very time consuming doing searches just to find one that really works. Are there any online money making ways that really works? I am already one of those person who have paid “Online Network Hosting, scams” and of course have not genreated any money, which they did assured that i would! Your recommendations would be much appreciated.
Thanks Sonny

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